![]() |
![]() |
|
|||||||
| Home | Forums | Supporting Vendors | Active Topics (F) | Photo Gallery | User CP | New Posts | Search | Quick Links | Store | Log Out |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
07-06-2002, 08:47 AM |
#76 |
|
Super DSMtalker
Former 92 GSX owner Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0)
Disturbed's Photo Gallery
|
My car managed to give me 3 heart attacks in one day.... all within a
half hour period of time. I think somehow it was caused by the Cyclone intake or it was just a very odd
coincidence. I did not have the intake hooked up, then, hooked it up the
way Deusxmachina had said.... straight nipple on canister to actuator and
the "elbow" nipple to the intake. I did that and after about a half hour
of driving this is what happened, please read......
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=482041#post482041 Was that all actually caused by the intake? If so, how in the hell? Deusxmachina also said in an earlier post about feeling hesitation and such... but either my car got it worse or its just causing a completely different problem. Thanks guys for any help. Sorry to sorta cross thread, but since we've been discussing it here and I think it has to do with the Cyclone intake, I thought posting it here would get better response. __________________ ![]() A friend: "You'll have to forgive him... he's autistic" Me: "Yeah..... that means I can draw good" |
|
|
07-06-2002, 04:21 PM |
#77 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
Well, if it only did it when hooked up and then stopped doing it when
unhooked, I guess that narrows it down pretty good. I think your other
post said you replaced the belts and things, so the main rubber-burning
smell I would think of is a belt rubbing or loose. I had to crank my
alternator belt down three times to get it to stop squealing (and burning
and being hot to the touch when shutting the car off). Only other thing I can think of for the cyclone is if you hooked the canister up backwards then there would be a huge vacuum leak. I think. And boost may have now blown out the check valve insides. I don't know why there would be a burning smell, though unless you're melting it from the inside out somehow. If you hook the actuator straight to the intake and bypass the canister, then if everything is still ok, then you'll know it's something with the canister or how the canister was hooked up. Update for me... I have the wheel bearings and spindle shaft ready to go, but I'm still working on the freakin' intake and I'm about to shoot the car. I put it back on and the car wouldn't idle on its own and turned the spark plugs black in under a minute. I took the cyclone off, and I'm so smart I left the cyclone's gasket stuck to itself AND left the u.s. metal gasket on the head from when i had the u.s. intake on for the last few weeks. So I double-gasketed it. Still should have at least idled you'd think, though. I took it all off, took the cyclone's organic gasket off since it was getting old, and used the metal reusable gasket. It runs a very tiny bit better, but it still sucks and won't idle on its own. I hook a fog machine up to the upper ic pipe, and sure enough, smoke comes out the bottom of the intake from what looks like right at the head. I had compared the cyclone's ports to the u.s. before, and the cyclone's were a hair bigger (possibly to make up for having the split-level inside there that might block some airflow), but they bolt up to the heads fine, so you'd think at the worst the u.s. gasket would just be blocking some airflow or something. Unless someone comes up with another idea, I think the blackened plugs and the almost no vacuum must be from a big air leak from the manifold-to-head gasket. Guess I'll have to take the cyclone off AGAIN and check, which I should have done before I put it back on the last time. I'm tired. Someone come over and shoot my car for me. |
|
|
07-06-2002, 04:24 PM |
#78 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
I just read your post again. Did I say the elbow end goes to the
intake? I think I said the elbow end goes to the actuator. I'm taking mine
off again now, so I'll check again, but I think the elbow nipple goes to
the actuator. If so, that would explain what happened. |
|
|
07-06-2002, 10:56 PM |
#79 |
|
Super DSMtalker
Former 92 GSX owner Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0)
Disturbed's Photo Gallery
|
I dont want to double post, so here's a link to a thread I started
about a problem I was having, which came to be how the Cyclone was hooked up. http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=484322#post484322 |
|
|
07-07-2002, 01:09 AM |
#80 |
|
New DSMtalker
92 Talon TSi A/T Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: minnesota
Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0)
fonduumaster's Photo Gallery
|
Hey guys, I know you have been in this discussion together for a
while now, sorry for jumping in. Ive been reading it all along, I am in
the same position you are in. I have got to say this has been this conversation has been most helpful in figuring out how to hook up the cyclone. Lets keep this an ongoing thing, I will help a lot of people out that are in the same situation as us, thanks! I have plans now to install a $5 NAPA air compressor regulator valve in the vaccuum line and fine tune the timing of the runners. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 07:55 AM |
#81 | |
|
Super DSMtalker
Former 92 GSX owner Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0)
Disturbed's Photo Gallery
|
Quote:
I completely agree with you, I feel this is not only the most informative thread about Cyclone intakes but one of the most informative on any subject Ive read. DSMtalk is a fantastic source of information for DSMs, however, with a lot of the threads Ive read and posted in, a lot end very open ended. Im glad this one has gone this far and I hope it keeps doing so. Im also happy to be part of it and making my car somewhat of a guinea pig. ![]() For now, I have the actuator hooked to the intake and thats it. Its been the only way that hasnt given me some problem (as you can read in the link I provided in my last post.) Im going to leave it like that for now until a more proper way to make the Cyclone work comes along. I feel that no one is really going to fully benefit from having a Cyclone unless that solenoid thats missing from this equation or an adequate replacement is made, as Deusxmachina has said on more than 1 occasion. I know theres more than a handful of people running around out there with their Cyclones hooked up. I wish we could get more of those people in here to post about how they have it hooked up and what they've experienced from it. So far its been a lot of trial and error. | |
|
|
07-07-2002, 08:42 AM |
#82 |
|
Super DSMtalker
Former 92 GSX owner Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0)
Disturbed's Photo Gallery
|
Ok, it was posted earlier on in this thread about the US Spec EGR
solenoid looking like the solenoid for the JDM butterfly actuator. A long
long time ago, I removed all the solenoids from the firewall (driver's
side). The bracket has a space for 3 solenoids, however, only 2 are on
there. I dont recall if I had the 3rd... which would be the EGR solenoid.
But, I do have the purge control and fuel pressure solenoids along with the proper wiring to hook it back up. Does anyone think I could subsitute one of these for the butterfly actuator solenoid? If so, which one do you think would be better to use? Im going to look around a little later to see if I actually have the EGR solenoid. If I dont or cant find it, and one of you have an extra or took yours off, maybe you could try hooking it up or send it to me and Id give it a try... this is of course assuming the EGR solenoid would work better. I have to drive my g/f to work and then I'll check back here. I want to get some opinions before I go hooking stuff up. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 10:46 AM |
#83 |
|
Super DSMtalker
1991 galant vr4 Join Date: May 2002
Location: denton texas
Posts: 361 Trader Rating: (0)
ho chi inn's Photo Gallery
|
everyone posting has overlooked one important thing. the cyclone throttle body has only ONE vacuum port,
AND, if you check vacuum/boost via that port, you will see it has ZERO,
nada, 0, of ANY reading until about 3k rpm. i am sure that this is one of
the ways the b/flys opening is controlled, that and what the ecu sees. i
am using that t/bdy on my car now, and i had my vacuum/boost gauge on it,
and that is what i noticed. and no, it wont work to use that as a
controller, because there is NO vacuum at low speeds, so the flys would
stay open. however, it COULD and i believe it DOES control partially when
they open. and the white cannister is strictly a one way valve. try
getting air to go both ways, it dont. fwiw, i got kingsborne wires in calif. to make me a set of wires for the cyclone, excellent, cost me 25 bucks and fit almost perfect. #3 wire could be a tad(1/2-1") longer, but it fits. the ends are superb, they fit better than factory. in stop and go traffic, i can tell the cyclone is a lot better that the non. especially in that area where you either gotta be wound out in first, or lugging it it second, i just leave it in second, and it is very smooth. i also pop it into second just barely rolling, and it pulls nicely. i have the flys hooked up straight to intake vacuum. if i remember correctly, the ecu will hold the flys closed until 3k rpm, no matter what boost is. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 10:51 AM |
#84 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
I had mentioned in this thread that *the* reason I started reading
and posting on dsmtalk was because of trying to find information about
"the mysterious" cyclone. And now everyone
who has kept contributing on the subject has certainly added to the info
base. Blackhole's site is the only place with flow #s mentioned, (201 vs
203cfm), but I have seen other tests elsewhere showing the same thing --
that for overall flow, the cyclone is within
one or two cfm of the u.s. intake. Either of those solenoids should work. I don't think it matters which, based on the people who have used them with a pressure switch to hook the cyclone up that way. Mine is apparently still air-leaking like a mofo at the head, so yesterday I got a new intake gasket and took apart the cyclone and RTV'd the gaskets that were on there for the insides. I've had the intakes on and off the car so much lately that if this doesn't work I'm going to tow the car to a lake so I can push it in. My left arm is so scratched up from reaching under to get the bottom bolts that people have stopped me in mid-conversation lately and asked, "Dude, what happened to your arm? That's one vicious cat you must have." On another note, looks like my actuator is toast. I messaged Jason since he's in Japan and contacted RRE, but if anyone in the states has one or knows where to get one, let me know. It'll be hard to test out my $4 Brad B. boost controller on it if the actuator won't hold air to keep
the butterflies closed. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 12:24 PM |
#85 | ||
|
Super DSMtalker
Former 92 GSX owner Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Florida
Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0)
Disturbed's Photo Gallery
|
Quote:
Maybe Ive misunderstood how others have hooked it up, but I didnt hook the vac. line to the nipple on the throttle body. Anytime Ive hooked a vac. line to the intake its been to a nipple on the front of the intake itself, near the fuel rail. If thats wrong, that could explain the problems I was having, but I think I did it right. Quote:
This may be a stooopit question, but do you think I should just hook the vac. lines to the solenoid and leave it at that? Or should I actually plug in the solenoid to the electronic connector on the firewall?... Doing that would result in it being ECU controller I would assume, but, would it serve the same function? Im not quite sure how the fuel pressure and purge solenoids work via ECU. | ||
|
|
07-07-2002, 02:15 PM |
#86 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
There's an easy way to see if the actuator or canister is hooked to
the one nippled throttle body at all. Here, allow me: "JasonVR4, if you get a chance, can you find a cyclone motor in Japan and look to see where the one nipple on the throttle body goes to?" And then you just sit back and let the magic happen. Didn't BallBearing or someone have the whole engine with solenoid all connected when he got his engine? For mine... boy, I feel dumb. Someone aware of my air leak, which I was thinking must be some weird gasket problem, emailed me this morning and said the a/c won't clear unless you grind things down, and if you don't there will be an 1/8" gap on the bottom that you can't see. I, having already ground down the one runner and having the cyclone seemingly slip on just fine, thought naw, that's not it. But I checked it anyway with a thin piece of plastic... Apparently you have to really grind that sumbitch down. I put paint on top of the a/c and kept putting the intake on and off and if it got paint on it that's where I ground it down some more. The gap on the bottom side was HUGE. I think I got it now. Waiting for RTV to dry. Taking a break right now so I don't happen to pick up a hammer and swing it at the car. ![]() |
|
|
07-07-2002, 02:29 PM |
#87 |
|
Super DSMtalker
1991 galant vr4 Join Date: May 2002
Location: denton texas
Posts: 361 Trader Rating: (0)
ho chi inn's Photo Gallery
|
yep, when i installed cyclone, most said
to bend the a/c line, and one person said to heat it with a torch and bend
it. right. so, i started to bend it, and freon started to leak. i knew it
wouldnt take it. there is only one small 6mm bolt holding the hi side line
to the compressor. it AINT gonna take a lot of stress. so, like you, i
ground down the one raised boss for the coil, and it cleared. then, i just
rotated the coil about 10 degrees, used one hole, and drilled another, and
it all fit, except the wires, which i got from kingsborne. also, if you
plan on using the cyclone surge tank bracket,
you have to grind the hell out of it, too, or it wont clear the a/c
compressor, and, it may cut thru the hot wire to the a/c clutch, and then
the fun begins. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 04:10 PM |
#88 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
I haven't had any canister bracket-clearing issues at all. I cut off
the lower boss for the coil bracket, and had to grind down the #1 runner
and the top of the a/c compressor. I kept grinding on the runner so much
that I was getting worried I'd see daylight through it, which is why I
turned my attention to the top of the compressor to take some off of
there. The intake should be ok, I would think. I'm using the JDM plug wires that came with the engine, (figured I'd burn out the used ones first), but my NGKs are the same size. Disturbed, everyone hooks it up to the front of the intake, so you got it right. I don't know exactly how the factory solenoids work, either. The fuel pressure one is on only at startup, and I don't remember what the other one is. Thinking about that one nipple... do the JDMs have the charcoal canister or *any* kind of emissions? All of our tb nipples are just for emissions. But, if the ecu uses the EGR wire to control the cyclone solenoid, then having it also hooked up to that nipple might make some sense. With either method, that would mean the cyclones are setup in Japan to open at anything above 3000rpms, which wouldn't be a bad way to do things. But, other than for that meaning the intake is open during highway cruising (and possibly having better fuel economy), I think a psi method to control it would provide better throttle response since at under 10psi or whatever you'd always be closed and spool up faster. I finished getting it back on now. I spent a good portion of this last week playing with the install again. man. And the whole time the problem was me thinking it was clearing the a/c. Oh well, I can't be smart *all* the time, I guess. The car starts and idles on its own now, of course, so that's good. Vaccum reading on the resetted-ECU looks where it should be, so looks like the intake fully cleared the a/c this time with no leaks. I was worried for a minute there because I heard this big leak and the idle was funky, but I just had forgotten to put the brake booster line back on. Since my actuator is toast and I took it off, I now can also say that, at idle, the closed butterflies are good for about one more hg of vacuum over being open. Open, the guage showed 17.5", and then I flipped the lever and it went to about 18.5". So whether having the butterflies open at cruise for more airflow, or closed and having a hair more vacuum, I don't know which one would give better gas mileage on the highway. Until I get another actuator, I guess this will let me play with my spring theory of controlling the butterflies. I can see myself in the hardware store now... "Excuse me, do you know which of these springs won't stretch until about 10 pounds of boost?" "Uh...." Looking at the butterflies again when I had it off the numerous times this week, the butterflies do sit at an angle in there, and so lots of air flowing through should blow them to the open position. So maybe the spring method will work if I can find the right spring. The only thing would be that they'd open in proportion to how much boost (air) is coming through -- so they'd be half open at 5psi or whatever. Still wouldn't be a bad way to have it work, I s'pose. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 05:24 PM |
#89 |
|
Super DSMtalker
1991 galant vr4 Join Date: May 2002
Location: denton texas
Posts: 361 Trader Rating: (0)
ho chi inn's Photo Gallery
|
do you KNOW how much vacuum it takes to open the flys? not much, you
can do it by sucking on the tube. it's a lot less that 10 in. when i am at
gentle acceleration, and the single port was hooked up, when it came on, i
always had about 8-10 in vacuum. unless i had mashed it, in which case it
would be on 0, then the needle would go into vacuum for a split second,
then into boost. even at part throttle, when you start off, your vacuum
goes to zero, then starts to build again. i think that because the ecu
holds it below 3k rpm, it takes away the rapid open/close of the flys, and
they stay closed. |
|
|
07-07-2002, 10:12 PM |
#90 |
|
New DSMtalker
92 Talon TSi A/T Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: minnesota
Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0)
fonduumaster's Photo Gallery
|
Deusxmachina and Disturbed.....
Where in Florida and Wisconsin are you located? I live in Minnesota
and am on vacation in Florida. Maybe if we are close we can put our heads
together when working on the dsm's. |
|
|
07-08-2002, 10:54 PM |
#91 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
I'm 30 minutes south of Green Bay. I got the intake on yesterday without any leaks this time, vacuum reading looks good. I got the wheel bearing done, (what a pita), and today put the 3" exhaust back on after getting an alignment done with the stock exhaust on it. 'Cause lowered DSMs with 3" exhaust don't fit up ramps very well, of course. Looks like my spring theory for the butterflies won't work. With the actuator off, I can flip the lever to either position. Definitely changes the vacuum reading at idle, as I mentioned. I drove around a bit with it open, spool-up was normal, but then I flipped the lever to close the butterflies, and if anything changed at all, spool-up was actually SLOWER up to 5psi. I think it was basically the same, and 10psi and 15psi looked to hit at the same rpms, but spooling out of vacuum to 5psi seemed slower than with the lever to the open position. Weird. Or maybe I was seeing things. I do know there wasn't much difference at all between both positions. So, I don't know what's going on there. I hit 15psi a few times, and the lever stayed in the closed position, so apparently 15psi isn't enough to open the butterflies from airflow alone. They sit at an angle in the intake, so I thought they might blow open with enough boost. Guess not. Also, the car is slow for what it has on it. I hope it's just retarded timing from never having checked the cam sensor position. I just finished the first tank of gas since putting the engine in (and then it was on jackstands forever on and off), and the fuel light just came on and I only put 120 miles on it. So something's up. Runs fine and everything, just isn't as fast as it should be. And now the clutch pedal is creaking/clunking. Bleeding it didn't help, so I think I get to join the ACT 2600 club of people who have it wear out their clutch linkage. I wouldn't care so much if the car had the power it should have. When the power is there, you don't mind having to fix other less important things such as clutch linkages and wheel bearings. |
|
|
07-09-2002, 05:22 AM |
#92 |
|
DSMtalker
'89 Galant Dynamic4 Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (0)
GermanDSM's Photo Gallery
|
@Deusexmachina
If you can flip the butterfly lever by hand, would it be possible to hook up a servo and a rpm-switch to the lever??? I would like to put the cyclone on my NT, but I am not willing to pay $150+ for a device I cannot use..... __________________ CU GermanDSM '92 Eclipse GS (euro-spec) - totalled RIP '89 Galant Dynamic4 - resurrected |
|
|
07-10-2002, 02:37 AM |
#93 |
|
Super DSMtalker
96' Mit. Eclipse gst Join Date: May 2002
Location: Atl. GA, Alpharetta
Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)
GST2EVO's Photo Gallery
|
problem solved. I think.
BOOST PRESSURE SWITCH !!! - PN 30459
Three-pole unit switches on 0-30 psi adjustable pressure setting. Easily installed anywhere on engine or under dash. Can be used for any pressure actuated circuit for any purpose. 1997152 GM Boost Solenoid $8.84 Then a T for the brake booster to go to the boost solenoid. All you have to do now is run the vacuum line to the boost pressure switch, and then run line from the diaphram to the boost solenoid and from there to the t. The only thing I'm not sure of is if the switches power out will be compatible with the solenoids required power. Power is power though so i don't see why not. Worst comes to worst a resistor or something may be neeed. __________________ mastr of the 6-bolt. Have YOU loved your DSM today? |
|
|
07-10-2002, 03:18 AM |
#94 | |
|
New DSMtalker
92 TSI Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Garland
Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (0)
BallBearing's Photo Gallery
|
Quote:
are you done with the diagram yet? i can read japanese, you can just send it over, thanx Paul | |
|
|
07-10-2002, 03:57 AM |
#95 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
Yeah, TurboMitsu posted a long time ago about using a boost pressure
switch. He just didn't say the exact part number of the one he used.
If I had a working actuator, I could test out my $4 controller method on it. |
|
|
07-10-2002, 12:14 PM |
#96 | |
|
New DSMtalker
92 TSI Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Garland
Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (0)
BallBearing's Photo Gallery
|
Quote:
your actuator is not working?? how are you ganna fine another one?? Paul | |
|
|
07-10-2002, 02:59 PM |
#97 |
|
Super DSMtalker
'91 Talon AWD Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: WI
Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0)
Deusxmachina's Photo Gallery
|
I have my ways.... For now, kinda fun flipping the lever back and forth by hand whenever I want to feel the difference. The base timing is correct on the car, I reset the TPS and that helped some, and I checked the throttle cable -- no wonder the gas pedal felt unresponsive all the time. The throttle body lever had about an inch between it and the throttle stop. The cables were way out of adjustment. The pedal feels much perkier now, as does the car a bit since the throttle plate actually opens all the way. Still not as fast as it should be, though. It should be a barnburner with what it has on it. Back to the butterflies. I tested for a mile or two the other day when I posted about it feeling about the same whether open or closed. I just ran it a bit more now, flipping back and forth a couple times. The higher you boost with them closed, the more it helps spool-up, (as you would expect it to be). There might be 100rpm difference at 5psi, 150rpm at 10psi, and then looks to be a solid 200rpm gain at 15psi with the butterflies closed. Hard to tell exactly with things happening pretty fast. I was testing in fourth gear from a 2k roll, 2.5k roll, 3k, 3.5k, etc. Weird part is, seems like the higher the revs when I floor it, the better it helps spool-up. Maybe that makes sense, since from a low-rpm roll the all-open runners have more time to get the air moving. From around 3 or 3.5k with them closed, the boost really zips up there. Blackhole's site mentions Nate Pharr or someone having said the cyclone is worth 400rpm in spool-up. Maybe at 20+psi it might, but so far I don't think it's worth more than 200rpm. Which is still an improvement, of course. Or maybe that's with stock exhaust. My tests are with a ported/clipped 7cm 16g, ported 2g manifold and O2, 2.5" dp/cat and 3" catback. The car also feels very nice at low rpms and low boost, just driving around easy from stop signs, etc. I think that alone makes the cyclone worth it on a street car more than any spool-up help. It simply feels torquier when easing away from a stop, which is great if you have a grabby clutch which usually requires a few extra rpms to get going smoothly. It doesn't feel like a 2.2 liter, but it's very noticeable. And it's been mentioned before, but you can definitely tell the top-end difference with them closed. Feels like someone is holding the tachometer and speedometer needles back when you get up around 4k. So, anyway, there's another minor update to add to The World's Best Cyclone Thread Ever. Since I can't yet figure out why the car doesn't run like the scalded cat it should, I guess I'll go put the Supra sidemount on it instead. do do da do.... |
|
|
07-10-2002, 07:43 PM |
#98 |
|
New DSMtalker
240 VR-4 Monte Carlo Join Date: May 2002
Location: Misawa Japan
Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0)
jasonVR-4's Photo Gallery
|
[quote]are you done with the diagram yet? i can read japanese, you
can just send it over, thanx Paul Where having a little problem with typhoon's right now. |
|
|
07-10-2002, 09:03 PM |
#99 | |
|
New DSMtalker
92 TSI Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Garland
Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (0)
BallBearing's Photo Gallery
|
[quote]Originally posted by jasonVR-4 Quote:
oh....oops, take your time. | |
|
|
08-01-2002, 02:13 PM |
#100 |
|
DSMtalker
95 gst Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: minnesota
Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (0)
melissanbob's Photo Gallery
|
I believe I've figured out a way to get the full benefits of the dual
runner set-up on the cyclone intake, but i'm
not sure where to get one of the parts. tou hook up a y splitter to the
actuator. put a one way valve on one side so you can use the vacuum at
idle to close the 2nd set of runners, then a man. boost controller on the
other side of the y, hook both lines to manifold, this way you can set
when the 2nd set of runners open, i've heard 5-9psi is about right, but
i'm not sure where to find a one way valve with vaccuum fittings, although
i've heard older vw's have something that might work. i believe it's from
the widshield washer system, but i'm not sure, if anyone knows for sure
where to find a one way valve, let me know |
|
|
![]() |
| vBulletin Message | |
| Cancel Changes | |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (1 members and 0 guests) | |
| Flying Eagle |
|
|