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 11-02-2003, 07:48 PM |
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DSMtalker
1991 Galant VR4 Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (0)
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Lancerman, I am not following you on the PE. If you could just speel out what you mean by PE I would be greatly appreciative. I also have the TH350 wheel and not a ta31 gt30 wheel. As far as I know the GT35R has the same wheel as me. Thanks for the info. Later |
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| 11-02-2003, 07:49 PM |
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DSMtalker
1991 Galant VR4 Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (0)
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Lancerman, What are you refering to as PE ratios? I am not up on the terminology. Also I thought the GT30 has a TA31 wheel where as I have a TH350 common to the GT35R turbo, I think. Later |
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| 11-05-2003, 11:05 AM |
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mitsubishi/mirage/1994/ Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: florida
Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0)
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ex mani pressure/ in mani pressure most people aren't measuring ex mani backpressure so most are in the dark what the numbers are suppossed to be. a 1/1 ratio is great for the track but will be unresponsive on the street. backpressure is what spools the turbo. the gt40/th350 is very similiar to a gt35 turbo. the difference is one uses the th350 (stage 5) the other uses gt35 turbine. on a recent back to back the gt35 turbine made 2 more hp and 100rpm faster spool (600hp car). the gt35 turbine i am reffering to here is the non bb version. these were tested in pte 63 housing 5 bolt ford |
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| 11-05-2003, 11:23 AM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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Pressure Switch
ok, back to the cyclone intake
discussion... I talked to Matt from speednosis, a maker of a really nice ajdustable pressure switch. I got him to send me one at a reduced price so we can beta test it on our cylcones, and he said he'll discuss reduced group rates. I can't find a link that won't be dead after a couple days, but it's the black, gold plated one that is adjustable between 4-15psi, and is very accurate, much more so that the hobbs switch. "The switch works normally open AND normally closed. Operating pressure of up to 60 psi, and fully adjustable with an allen key to turn ON or OFF from 4-15 psi" I'll post a picture of it on my website as soon as it arrives. Ken Young |
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| 11-05-2003, 11:35 AM |
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DSMtalker
1991 GVR-4 782/2000 Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: OH
Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0)
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Re: Pressure Switch
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I bought one from him last week for $33 shipped.  Last edited by dsm_sleeper : 11-05-2003 at 11:39 AM. | |
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| 11-05-2003, 11:36 AM |
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DSMtalker
1991 GVR-4 782/2000 Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: OH
Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0)
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Re: Pressure Switch
Duplicate post.
Last edited by dsm_sleeper : 11-05-2003 at 11:39 AM. |
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| 11-05-2003, 11:41 AM |
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Super DSMtalker
Talon Tsi AWD '91 Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0)
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sounds like a very nice innovation ken. we'll be waiting for a
groupie buy.
__________________ '91 Talon TSi AWD |
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| 11-12-2003, 02:29 PM |
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DSMtalker
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switch
kengsx, is the switch you used similiar to this http://ads.auctionads.com/pagead/link_84f97855669eb086f024_da7a1d03b69ef8d67faad43124699e3e_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33557&item=2441618449 If so, i was thinking of using one of these. Keep this discussion going! I must haved read this thread 20 times to get all the info. edge |
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| 11-12-2003, 02:49 PM |
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DSMtalker
1991 GVR-4 782/2000 Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: OH
Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0)
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That is the switch that I have been using since this past weekend. So
far so good! |
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| 11-12-2003, 02:53 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
96' Mit. Eclipse gst Join Date: May 2002
Location: Atl. GA, Alpharetta
Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)
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can you list your hook up method, please  ?Also, how much better is spool? __________________ mastr of the 6-bolt. Have YOU loved your DSM today? | |
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| 11-12-2003, 03:08 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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yes, that's the same switch. I figured that link will be dead after a
week so I didn't post it. Ken |
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| 11-12-2003, 03:18 PM |
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DSMtalker
1991 GVR-4 782/2000 Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: OH
Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0)
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I have it set up using the "ho chi inn" method. I used that pressure
switch, an old boost solenoid and the old fuel purge solenoid with the
purple canister. I still need to play with the psi setting on the pressure switch. It does seem smoother than before. I just don't know at what psi they are opening right now. |
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| 11-12-2003, 03:34 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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He said they were pre-set to 10psi, but I would check it with a
mityvac and multimeter to be absolutely sure. Anybody can buy them now for
$33, but we can get a group buy for less after we know it works with our
setup. If we could get this setup posted I would be glad to host it on my site with due credit of course. I think we can optimize it for what we're doing. Also, Jeff O said he has the JDM ecu but has never had time to go in and figure out exactly what parameters the cyclone is operating at. I'm sure pressure works great, but a mixture of MAP, throttle and rpm would be fully optimum. Ken |
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| 12-16-2003, 01:21 AM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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Ok, delayed reaction on my part. Pictures of the pressure switch can
be found on my webpage under DSM and Cyclone
Intake page. There is also a diagram/cartoon of the pressure switch
showing it's features and possible setup. I'm at least another week before
my car is driveable with the ems so the cyclone tuning will obviously take a back seat.
Marq4g63, anytime that is convenient for you with that vacuum canister is
good for me. Maybe right after the new year. Ken Young |
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| 12-16-2003, 09:45 AM |
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Super DSMtalker
96' Mit. Eclipse gst Join Date: May 2002
Location: Atl. GA, Alpharetta
Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)
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off topic
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ken, that video freaken hilarious... (patiently awaiting ken learns to fly2, gravitys revenge)  | |
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| 12-16-2003, 10:51 AM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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Thanks man, I keep myself amused. More videos to come for sure, like my friends' antics on the way
to Englishtown after having my transfer case lock up. Best directing of
traffic, ever. |
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| 12-16-2003, 06:28 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
96' Mit. Eclipse gst Join Date: May 2002
Location: Atl. GA, Alpharetta
Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0)
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HAHA..pm me when you get the teaser trailer uploaded | |
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| 12-17-2003, 12:55 PM |
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DSMtalker
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dsmsleeper
How does the hochi inn method work. could you draw it up? or write up
a description so i can draw it up for everyone. KenGSX, the link you
posted back on page 9 i think, can you use any vaaccum canister? im just
asking because alot of people dont have the white canister (including
myself). also if anyone needs a place to upload pics realted to this, PM
me and we i can get them up for you. |
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| 12-17-2003, 01:11 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
1991 galant vr4 Join Date: May 2002
Location: denton texas
Posts: 361 Trader Rating: (0)
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this link may work, if so, this is a good diagram of the
system: http://www.3-points.com/rhertz/img.asp?id=2221 also, mopar part number 4677204 is a vacuum/one way cannister, costs 7 bucks, and may work. it might even be the same part. i have never seen it, but it has been discussed on the galantvr4 board. |
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| 12-17-2003, 01:14 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
1993 Mitsu Eclipse GSX Join Date: May 2002
Location: Delaware
Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0)
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The vacuum canister is a reservoir with a fixed volume and a one way
valve. Can somebody measure the dimensions of there's, so we can estimate
the internal capacity? Then you would go to a parts store and look in the
emissions aisle, possibly adding a one way valve to it, if it doesn't
already have one. I too offer to host pics, and as soon as I get a canister or make one myself I'll be able to start trying out these methods and posting about it. All I have posted so far, other than portwork, is an old actuation diagram I made a couple years ago and pics of the pressure switch. I'd also ask the moderators to change the name of this thread to Cyclone Intake Manifold Talk. Or something like that. There's also 270 posts with more than one question, so it's a bit outdated. Ken |
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| 12-17-2003, 03:10 PM |
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Super DSMtalker
1991 galant vr4 Join Date: May 2002
Location: denton texas
Posts: 361 Trader Rating: (0)
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diam=1 7/8" leng=2" that mopar part number i gave IS a one way valve/resevoir. it is used for the wiper system on the dodge trucks, some sort of a delay. also, i am told there is another cannister on some of the other mitsu cars, like the diamante, that does the same thing. someone who needs one might want to take a look at what the mopar one is. |
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| 12-17-2003, 08:25 PM |
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New DSMtalker
Talon TSi AWD 1996 Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0)
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I haven't checked the vacuum capacity on it, but if someone can find
the vacuum canister off of a CA18DE Nissan Pulsar they have a similar
butterfly valve setup. The canister is black and mounted on the
firewall...the solenoids are mounted underneath the airbox...there were
three total I think. I'm going to try and get that to work once my head is
back on, but if someone has the chance to do it let me know. |
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| 01-27-2004, 05:57 AM |
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DSMtalker
mitsu/triton/94 Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: australia
Posts: 191 Trader Rating: (1)
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I just did the set up with the white and purple canister, two
solenoids one normally open one and a normally shut one(both came of a
volvo) dont know what they used them for but they are small and you could
fit them in your pocket at the wreckers LOL! CHEAP!!! i linked them up as
per one of the threads had a fairly simple picture that had a hobbs switch
setup. I used my AEM to drive them. programed to open at 3500rpm, load of
60 plus, afr .75 up, tps 50%or more, engine temp 65f +, ait 10c +. and it
is a different car it has been connected straight to the inlet plenum for
the last 2 years what a mistake that was!!!!!! Thanks guys for all the
info it has been great. I will have to redo my fuel map now since i
started it with that set up it stumbles more than usual goes way two rich
just driving normal now! but when you get around 4000rpm it goes and spool
up (GREAT!!!) and it has nearly killed all the lag on gear changes. Thanks
again and i did read all 272 posts on this thread.
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| 01-29-2004, 12:56 AM |
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DSMtalker
1999 Eclipse GSX Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 248 Trader Rating: (0)
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Great thread, I've got my Cyclone going
on in May or so but this info helped out a lot!!
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| 01-30-2004, 01:56 PM |
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DSMtalker
1991 Eagle Talon TSI Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (0)
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What would happen if I took a cyclone
intake manifold and removed the butterfly assembly and ported the end tank
holes out to one big hole and knife edged the entrences to the runners in
the second peice and did alittle port work here and there and ran it like
that? It would be like putting a 4 valve head on a 2valve motor, the
valves are smaller but since there are more it flows better and doesnt
loose as much volocity. Or would it cause bad shit since the runners are
different lengths? I wouldnt think it would matter since its not sucking
air its blowing it in there and it fills every space with pressure. Its
just an idea I am trying.
Drew __________________ Hondas are like a..holes, everyones got one. |
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